If he intended to say it was stronger, he would'v said it, but he didn't. This is one one of those fights I honestly have no idea who would win. Firstly, I don’t really know much about Lucifer Morningstar from his TV series, so I will be basing my knowledge off of him from the comic series. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu's body. Vegito dies. They literally say "stronger". And Majin Buu could've killed Vegeta, SS3 Goku > Majin Buu > Vegeta. SSJ4 Goku is much stronger than Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta as stated by both Old Kai and Goku himself. 1 when goku and vegeta fueses by fusion dance goku had to lower his power to mathc vegeta,s so goku=1000 and vegeta 600 but goku had to lower his power so goku=600 and vegeta=600+little boost of fusion = 100 so gogeta base power level = 1300 and vegito goku=1000 and vegeta=600 so 1600and potara are 1000x stronger than fusion dance and gives rival boost so vegito base =100750now vegito is more like goku and gogeta more like vegeta and goku is far above vegeta so now it has been proven that vegito>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gogeta, Goku and Vegeta are equal in the same level. It's obvious from that point on that Vegito is stronger than UG, who's better than SSJ3 Goku, and anyone who thinks Sonic is better, which may seem irrelevant but it is part of  DBZ / Sonic, should be checked for being mentally retarded or having Fanboyitus, and as a fan of both Goku is WAY better. Old Kai only said better. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 03:53, March 31, 2014 (UTC), Goku came to Earth with the Potara earings. Dont forget Goku trained with Uub in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for about 15 years which equals 5475 YEARS worth of training. To use them, the two people who will merge simply have to each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. Anything outside of that is irrelevant to me. See more ideas about gogeta vs vegito, dbz drawings, dragon ball super art. Now, Vegito is mostly worse because it takes a lot of his personallity. Vegeto Vs Gogeta (equal power levels) Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Sorry to say you won't find any. Gogeta is strong too,but the point I want to get across is super janemba or him are not stronger than ssj3 goku.Reason 1 lets not say super janemba easily beat goku because goku was whopping his tail for a while and lets not forget the dimensional powers he has over hell and that stupid sword that goku clearly had no way of defending himself from take those two away and there wouldve been no need for fusion ssj3 goku would have ended it so stop saying super janemba was stronger than him watch the part were him and goku fight.UltimateSuperSaiyan3 (talk) 23:43, November 9, 2013 (UTC). Vegito was playing around with Buuhan for most of the fight, but we never got to see Super Gogeta's true power. Only the anime comics for GT stated that, and you can take their word for it as much as I do (which I don't). You're logic for ruling out Wrath of the Dragon is deniable, but you are right in the sense of it not pertaining the events here. Elder Kai said it didn't hurt that Goku and Vegeta live to outdo each other. Vegito is vastly superior to any fighter in any Dragon Ball series and is in a complete leage of his own. most of gogeta's moves, such as the stardust breaker, are avoidable. Goku told Trunks he had to lower his power to match Goten's or the fusion dance wouldn't work. So, the assumption of SSJ Gotenks already being stronger than SSJ3 Goku is nuts. And just saying, rival boost also boosted Vegito's power as a pro-Vegito argument. Let's use this funny little thing called "facts" and "math" to solve this. Now, nowwhere in the Japanese/Englsih Manga or Anime does it clearly state that Gotenks as a SSJ is equal to SSJ3 Goku. I don't remember if Gogeta was even used in DBZ or it was just DBGT, but I know Vegito was used in the Buu Saga and was insanely powerful in comparison. So, Super Janemba is, obviously, WAY stronger than Buu, which, makes Super Vegito, at most, just as strong as Super Janemba, yet, Super Gogeta killed him with just a kick and his finishing blast. Secondly, your math isn't "fact," it's numbers you pulled from nowhere. P.S. Do you think he'll just stand there and let you do it? SuperGogeta91 (talk) 19:09, March 17, 2014 (UTC), Daizenshuu 7 wrote: If powering down DID put a toll on the power output, Goku would not sound so confident in defeating Buutenks when suggesting to fuse with Gohan, who BTW, is >>>>SSJ3 Goku. Edit by Don: Okay, so I have no idea why this person thinks that Super Vegito is as strong as a SSJ3. All you have to do is snap on earings. People say Gogeta can win because he got Super Sayin 4. This puts Base Gogeta equal with SSJ3 Goku and much weaker than Vegito. But, I'd say Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. So Goku's max potential and Vegita's max potential...average it .....you'd probably get Vegito and Gogeta's potential. Vegito or Gogeta - Who is stronger??? If Goku has achieved SSJ3 and Vegeta has unlocked SSJ2, the Gogeta could easily get SSJ2 and then to SSJ3. SSJ2 Gogeta (talk) 18:50, March 14, 2015 (UTC), Gogeta > or = Vegito > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku > Sonic > Mario. So in the end: Vegito is stronger than Gogeta, end of story. Only as a SSJ3 is Goku at the end of Z equal to or slightly stronger than Gohan. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Facts say that Vegito is stronger but i myself do not know why but maybe it is because the potora fusion lasts way longer than the fusion dance or potora fusions are always stronger than their fusion dance counterparts. For Vegito it depends, if Goku and Vegito are equal in power then Gogeta = Vegito but If Goku>/Gogeta. Dec 1, 2019 - Explore ziki chibi's board "gogeta vs vegito" on Pinterest. In my personal opinion, Vegito and Gogeta are equals in strength, but I can't really decide a winner based of so little information. Vegito SSJ = 180bil (already surpassed Gogeta SSJ4), Vegito SSJG is 72x stronger than Gogeta SSJG and 1,200x stronger than Goku SSJG. And Goku and Gohan were going to use the Potara Fusion to defeat Buutenks. You guys are idiots. Now I'm not commenting on your opinion, just your stupidity. Buutenks ran out of time on Gotenks Fusion, so he became Buuiccolo. So, it wouldn't matter if Gohan's base was so much higher than Goku's. But lke I said "Just an Idea".Ultimatessj1 (talk) 07:52, April 3, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, u cant compare these 2 because of the time limit. Now, I don't multiply power levels, since I think the numbers soar a little to high, and just adding them isn't enough. With equal power levels, Vegetto would obviously win simply because Potara fusion lasts longer Vegito can't use all his power though or the fusion runs out. Goku >>>.vegeta. I prefer Gogeta because I like his animations better, but I think Vegito is the better unit (subjectively) and I think he fits better on the teams he can be run on( PLus Vegito Blue has more teams and can link extremely well with the PHY VB after transforming. Only problem is SS4 Vegito can toy around with Gogeta til fusion wears off and beat the stuffing out of Goku and Vegeta also. like I said, nothing in the manga suggest Potara>Fusion Dance or vice-versa in terms of strength. Just for the record, what do you have Base Vegetto at? With "potara fusion," unequally matched cha… And what you said about Potara being better is BS Sandubadear 15:16, November 4, 2013 (UTC), Yeah goku and vegeta were both equal when fusing to make gogeta and vegito. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion." Defeat SSGSS Gogeta and SSGSS Vegito Lose Conditions Edit. Stress: Not strangling the life out of someone when they desperately need it. AT did say that Gohan was the strongest unfused character, but that is disproven by Whiss. At equal levels I'm leaning towards Gogeta. Vegito SSJ = 180bil (already surpassed Gogeta SSJ4) Vegito SSJ2 = 360bil Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! He is very cocky and confident that no one in the universe can beat him. Now that doesn't mean Gogeta automatically wins. Remember when Goku was teaching it to Trunks and Goten and told to go max power in Super Sayain? 1) time-u we know that gogeta only has 30 mins of fusion that will give vegito the advantage but we have also seen vegito time out quickly but it was due to overpowering so we will give vegito … And when he turned into a kid, it actually helps because then when he got older, he surpassed everyone because his power would soon not decrease by age. It is generally agreed that Vegito is more dominant than Gogeta. 3. Basic Reward Edit. He always wanted fusion. He didnt use super saiyan 3. The warriror who is stronger clearly depicts Vegito, but that would be an assumption my part as Gotenks is on your part. So let's take Goku's SSJ4 power level (3.6bil) and make it Vegito's base power. I believe Vegito is stronger because of the fact that it is a permanent fusion and that kai magic is stronger than metamoran technique, Goku said, as super saiyan 3, he could have beaten Buu. So no, he wouldn't have Goku's SSJ3 power since the Fusion Dance combines to equal energies. Saying there's no time limit for Gogeta, I think Vegetto would still be able to keep up with Gogeta. Base Goku 10+Base Vegeta 10= Base Gogeta 20--SSJ Goku is 500, so it must add the max power level. They had the same abilities in the Fusion Reborn movie. Considering Gogeta appeared in a movie, there wasn't a whole lot of time to explain everything about the Fusion Dance, so who are we to say? However, when Gogeta is a SSJ his pwoer level is 200,000 so the Super Gogeta that defeated Super Janemba was still incredibly strong compared to anyone but Vegito. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 19:31, March 9, 2014 (UTC). I didn't say Goku was lying, it's just 50/50 with him. So, the power levels wouldn't matter. Pre DBS I would say Vegito but post DBS I say Gogeta. It's in daizenshuu that potara is stronger. 2. While Vegito can theoretically exist twice as long as his Metamoran counterpart, he simply can't use his vast abilities unchecked without fear of the fusion coming to an abrupt, untimely end. 04:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC). That meant there is no rival boost, it means since they live to outdo each other, they grow stronger and stronger though Vegeta can't surpass Goku. Gogeta wins. I have Ultimate Gohan on par with SSJ3 Goku, I merely said he could lower his power level to a SSJ3 to match Goku, since you believe Gohan to be so much more powerful. Vegito is stronger because the fusion via Potara Earrings is stated to be the perfect fusion. ]], i think gogeta is stronger because 1. he wouldn't mess around he would go straight for the kill and also i would like to point out that 30 MINUTES IS PRETTY LONG IN THE DBZ UNIVERSE I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE DID EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT GOKU VS FRIEZA WHEN FRIEZA SAID THAT NAMEK WOULD BLOW UP IN 5 MINUTES AND THAT FIGHT LASTED LIKE 10 THROUGH 15 EPISODES AND VEGITO AND GOGETA CAN'T GO SUPER SAIYAN 4 DBGT WAS MADE JUST FOR GETTING MORE MONEY IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY IN THE MANGA SO DON'T SAY VEGITO COULD WIN JUST BECAUSE OF TIME LIMIT OF GOGETA 2. gogeta doesn't even flinch remember when he got punched by janemba he didn't even move he just stood there not even phased while vegito could take damage remember janemba is stronger then goku super saiyan 3 and vegeta they both got owned fast however with super buu gohan absorbed they were still good they didn't get out cold and weren't that beaten up as when they were fighting janemba so it kinda says janemba is stronger then super buu with gohan absorbed also i want to point out that elder kai said that the fusion type was only stronger then the fusion dance just because it didn't have a time limit and it was perminant but you forgot 30 minutes is a very long time in the dbz universe so yeah and gogeta starts as a super saiyan (or super saiyan 2 cause it looks like he is in that form) while vegito doesn't he starts in his normal form so through that period time gogeta has that adantage and that's why i think gogeta is stronger. Again, if he wanted to state it was stronger, he would've. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 18:28, February 24, 2014 (UTC), i think gogeta. I also regard rival boost as the greatest power boost in a fusion. The problem arises when Gohan>>>>SSJ3 Goku, so that wouldn't effect the fusion at all and they still wouldn't be strong enough to defeat Buutenks unless the powering down doesn't affect the fusion output. First of all Lets figure out both of their base power levels First is Gogeta's In V-jump his super saiyan power level is stated to be 2,500,000,000. He's had two wins and one loss. Furthermore, after merging the power is greater than with Fusion. So although he seems weaker, it's only because Vegeta doesn't have SSJ3.However, Vegito is still superior. I know that Vegito wasn’t able to win, especially due to the time limit. Now don't get me wrong, I know Vegito can only go up to Super Saiyan as well, but when Vegito goes Super Saiyan, becoming Super Vegito. Wrong. 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